Benutzer:Baisemain/Englisch

Wörterbücher & Co.

Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of current English, Fifth Edition, Oxford University Press, 1995

Grammatik und Rechtschreibung

Silbentrennung:
Hinweise auf www.grammarbook.com

Regeln, Empfehlungen, Richtlinien, Konventionen etc.

Phrasal verbs

<Dmcsleep>	Oh, I forgot it's "Morgen." You Germans are always shouting, even in text. ;-)
<baisemain>	Yes, we do. Blitzkrieg!
<baisemain>	ok try not to shout
* Dmcsleep	quickly builds a sea wall along the Atlantic to fend off the blitzkrieg.
<baisemain>	How do you deal with phrasal verb in the English Wiktionary?
<Dmcsleep>	Have a look at something like tick off.
<LinkyC>	http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tick_off
<baisemain>	i'm sorry for my capitalization, it's a bad habit
<Dmcsleep>	Actually, that's a bad example as there is no inflection template there.
<baisemain>	are there any policies?
<Dmcsleep>	Don't worry, geimfyglid here always capitalizes all her pronouns even in English, so we've gotten used to it. ;-)
<Dmcsleep>	baisemain, What in particular are you wondering about?
<baisemain>	i'm from the german wiktionary
<baisemain>	argh
<Dmcsleep>	It's not very different from how we do other verbs, really. I'm just wondering if there is something more 
specific you are looking for.
<baisemain>	how do you list them in the entry of the 'main verb'?
<baisemain>	as a derived term?
<baisemain>	or as a related term?
<baisemain>	i saw both variants
<Dmcsleep>	I would say it should be derived, typically.
<baisemain>	fine. in the german wiktionary we don't have any policy so it's a total mess-up
<Dmcsleep>	Usually a phrase containing a verb must be etymologically derived from it, whereas words that are only 
etymologically related are like "pendant" and "pennant," which have similar roots, but neither comes from the other.
<baisemain>	aha
<Dmcsleep>	Well, "Descendents" "Derived terms" "Related terms" and "See also" have definite meanings on en.wikt, though  
sometimes people still get confused, especially since they involve etymology. The policy decriptions of them are at 
 http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/WT:ELE#Descendants
<baisemain>	Thank you very much for your help.
<Dmcsleep>	Sure. :-)

Fazit (wenn man es machen möchte wie das englische Wiktionary): Phrasal verbs sind als ganz normale englische Verben zu klassifizieren und in die Kategorie [[Kategorie:phrasal verb]] oder so ähnlich zu stecken. Man braucht also auch eine Flexionstabelle, Beipsielsatz, Silbentrennung und so weiter. Das 'phrasal verb' ist unter {{Abgeleitete Begriffe}} im Eintrag des (Haupt-)Verbs aufzuführen.

Amerikanisches vs. britisches Englisch

Diskussion
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Beispiele: missile, careful, Ferien (bei "Übersetzungen")